Amina two bullets in the heart.". Why would the LAPD destroy the evidence, Patricias sister Arletta and other family members still ask to this day. Said And dance instructor William Jarrett couldnt remember whether she attended his dance class at the club the night of Joanns disappearance. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. And about the only thing from your comment with which I can agree, is you saying thats not proof theyre right in reference to their verdict. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult Jenkins' assailant Patricia Prue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Friday after deciding to plead guilty the day before to charges of aggravated attempted murder, kidnapping and conspiracy. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. FBI agents watched them deliver grocery bags to the house and then followed them to a shopping center in Southlake where they dumped trash from the home, prosecutors said. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. Lawyers pleaded their cases in closing arguments to 12 jurors and three alternates for nearly two hours Tuesday morning. And shes were so happy. Is Dallas becoming unaffordable due to rising housing costs, inflation and stagnating pay? From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. She is the one who tricked them, first by How would an intruder find it? Deal refused. Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. Very similar. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. 'He's going to be in a better place': Florida mom charged with the Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. I was able to email with Patricia via the PrisonConnect platform around Christmastime. "As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. Patricia Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. BROADCASTING SPECULATIVE SCENES, SUCH AS MENTIONED ABOVE, CAN LEAVE A VERY INDELIBLE MEMORY ON THOSE WHO ARE HAPPY TO REMAIN GULLIBLE. "Please do the right thing for Melissa.". Yaser Said was arrested Aug. 26 after authorities searched the Justin home. It took jurors about three hours to convict Said for the deaths of his daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Tragedy also touched Patricias life. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? Owens said because of what Said did, she will never get to see her daughters grow up. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. So, lets take your response one step at a time. This is all BS.She did it. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Pat will spend the rest of her natural life in prison where people like her belong. Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. Thats my life.. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. She won't see them graduate from college. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. "So it was relieving to get guilty verdict and get justice for these girls.". All rights reserved. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? Warren, who was tearful at the end of the hearing, said she is pleased with the outcome of the case, and that her office was only waiting on the outcome of Allen Prue's appeal. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two daughters in 2008. When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. I believe in Patricias innocence and she deserves to be freed, at last! SHAME ON THEM. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. All the sources said the same thing either exposure or suffocation, but no certainty about which one. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. Patricia Giddings pleads not guilty Just one example. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. They also found a photo of Patricia taken 11 days before the homicide. The evidence was all there. Islam Said, Yasseins 32-year-old nephew, pleaded guilty to the same charges last month in connection with the effort to protect Yaser Said, 63, who had been a fugitive since 2008. Shes being well taken care of.. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. That woman has no soul. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. If you want to help her tell her to ask God for forgiveness. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? You seem to have a fragile ego. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. "I couldn't believe it," Blasczyk said of the crime. The Dallas Morning News revealed that Patricia said, "All I can say is there's going to be justice," after waiting for 12 years of pain of losing her children. Authorities said they have no evidence that Jerome had cancer or was dying. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. Patricia And Mark McCloskey Who Waved Guns At BLM Protesters I expect she will admit it one day. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. There was also forensic evidence, obviously planted by them crooked cops, according to defenders. Patricia Kopta eventually developed dementia, police said. A correction to the comment above. Armed homeowners Mark and Patricia McCloskey stood in front of their house in June 2020, confronting protesters who were marching to St. Louis Mayor Lyda Krewson's Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. Or did they? The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. Discuss and express opinion; stop short of asserting that those of the other view (that of judge and jury, at least) are ignorant of facts and wrong, and youre right, because by definition its reasonable for lay people to accept the jury verdict. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. What a contrived case! "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). Carter can be reached at [email protected]. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. Patricia Wrights brother, Larry Wright, 47, and her neighbor, Janet Marcelin, 55, both testified that Patricia Wright and Lawrence Slaughter committed the murder but recanted their testimony after Patricia was sentenced to life without possibility of parole. She just stayed in touch with everybody, Kathy Barber said in her interview on NBCs Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports in 2017. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. We lived close to one another. The trial was taking so much of my time. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Flaw in reasoning. The fact that shortly after Joanns funeral, Andy reconnected with an old friend, a woman who happened to live about 4 miles from where the bodies were found. Your email address will not be published. Sorry not sorry. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. "I don't have any mercy for that lady," Blasczyk said, referring to Patricia Prue. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. 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Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Patricia Cole, a veteran copy editor whose sharp eye, quick wit and kind heart made her a cherished colleague at NPR and other news outlets, died on Friday at age 46, ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. Why not question some of this evidence? Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. They theorize that Andrew Katrinak framed Patricia and that the hostile phone call between Patricia and Joann actually took place not on Dec. 12 as Andrew said but rather on Dec. 7. Lead Prosecutor Lauren Black called Said a true narcissist who believed he was smarter than everybody else. WebHis ex-wife and the mother of the teens, Patricia Owens, watched Said as the judge sentenced him. Patricia Feb 7, 2017 Patricia A. Giddings, seated beside Keeseville-based attorney Jacob Painter in Clinton County Court on Tuesday, spoke only to affirm she understood the proceedings. Allen Prue told police he and his wife "wanted somebody they could play with," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren has said. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. You are not expressing an opinion but making an assertion or claim of fact: [I] have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. You are claiming innocence as fact there is no doubt shes innocent. Omg so well put! Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? Patricia Thanks for contacting us. Locked up. I thought the same. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. A Texas man who carried out the mass shooting at the Cielo Vista Walmart in El Paso, Texas, on Aug. 3, 2019, killing 23 people and injuring 22 more, pleaded guilty today in U.S. District Court to a 90-count indictment, including 45 counts of violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or [email protected]. And why would the judge not let the information about Jerome being a homosexual be known to the jury.. THE COPS SET HER UP. Nine. Youre so fixated with her guilt, youre unable to see other factors that show this case to be a disgraceful travesty. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. In one entry, she writes that she has plans for people who have messed with her, and that "people will be surprised of what she is capable of," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren said. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. I THINK THEY SHOULD REOPEN THIS CASE AND LOOK AT THE HUSBAND JUST SAYING BUT IN MY HEART AND MIND FROM READING ALL THE NOTES AND STUFF PATRICA IS NOT GUILTY AND THEY NEED TO SET HER FREE. Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. He was sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! Meanwhile, interest in Patricias plight continues on social media. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. Patricia What did the ME report as to the age of the baby?
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