I do not feel comfortable answering that question right now. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? Want me to put it up anyway? 43 seconds of audio. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. Easy, they were lying! He passed away in 2020. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. No Im just a mechanic in Boston Mass. It has those wooden, beaded seat covers. Police say they ruled Eldridge out as a suspect, and that he did not match an updated sketch of the suspect. Have for a long time. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. You will see below where we regard certain things as Proven. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Liberty German Fbi 6) He has a family member thats buried in the cemetery near the Monon Bridge. No, I Dont Lack Credibility or Legitimacy, Alt Left: Hate the Collective But Love the Individual. Libby and Abby went missing on 13 February 2017 after they set off on a hike along the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, Indiana. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! Did he sleep? Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. An updated sketch for the suspect was released in April of 2019, and no further information about his appearance has been publicly shared. A lot of my friends didnt join. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? Investigators also believed photographs or videos were likely shot of the grotesque set-up to 'memorialize' the crime scene. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. If it is not a serial killer, it can be too confrontational.Still, you never know and for sure a creepy idea. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. Empiricism is a thing. He currently resides in prison for videotaping himself having sex with a 15 year old. I live in Pennsylvania and have been interested in this case since the time it happened. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. After the girls body was found, at the time of her murder, the local police chased other suspects in connection with the case, but nothing stuck. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. Can you spell out the name? What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. We also have at least one other search warrant for another home. Enough is enough. Newly Released Details About The Delphi Murders Show How Police Came To You do a great job! I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. I found who mr. X is. The 14-year-old also captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a jacket and a hoodie walking along the abandoned railroad bridge. BG was dressed in clothes similar to what Ron wore, and he took the girls to Rons land and killed them there. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. Note that it was parked in head first. Its at his home on a shelf! Ron Logan, who died in 2020, had long been put forward as a prime suspect. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In the years before his arrest, Miller had left numerous notes in public places saying the killer of Tinsley would strike again. Robert, I am wondering why no reply to my question? Throughout their investigation, an important piece of evidence discovered on Germans phone has aided in their search. If he is a poser, which is the worst of the worst, and he has a transport company, that gives him carte blanche to move around in committing more crimes of this nature in different parts of the country as he travels. Drunkard perhaps. This was posted within a Facebook group and the poster stated that it was fine to share with other groups. According to video recovered from one of the victim's phones, Abby or Libby mentioned "gun" as a man approached them, the probable cause affidavit said. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. This may extend to age 15. If so, why? These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. It is important to note that the validity of the text messages has not and cannot be corroborated at this time. Police cleared nations as a suspect. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case. The two dates - 2/13/2017 & 2/13/2012 are the same in numerology (16): 2+1+3+2+0+1+7 = 16 and 7+1+3/+2+0+1+2 = 16. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. This is what happened. They showed the boots in an evidence bag to the media later on that night, and they said, Oh, this is nothing. Something to think about. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. Same with Evansdale probably too. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. Search warrants obtained by a podcast and a local television station are shedding new . So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victims phone is proven. Suspect in Delphi murders on police radar since the killings She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him. But ive also read (this is a rumorif not OK i will delete) that they girls were found apart. I am thinking of reasons why the FBI was immediately involved and now the focus is not on a possible interstate killer. You just dont know what a person is capable of. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. However, the other three have only peripheral involvement and may have committed no crime! If you cant handle such material, dont read! This blood will probably will not come out with the wash. I like some of these guys. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. The "Nearly Decapitated" rumors : r/DelphiMurders - reddit Also, if I look at a map showing where the girls were dropped off, seems there is a pretty long trail from that spot onto the railroad bridge. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. They're stills from the helicopter footage during the search. Long, 22 pages. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Girls in the pedohebephilic age range (8-14 years old) were brazenly abducted two at once from trails in busy parks in rural Midwestern towns in the middle of daytime with many people around. The FBI has released a description for the suspect, which is that he is a white male between 5'6" and 5'8" tall. However, I do not know how to contact you Sir. It's crazy some of the stuff people will make up for attention. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. Feel free to post about any unsolved case you think is interesting, high profile preferred. Police Handout. Press J to jump to the feed. Let me jump in here. Investigators said the person behind the account posed as the model in order to groom underage girls and get them to send nude photos and their addresses and try to get them to meet. Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. I find it ironic that he lived close to the Flora fires, and it wouldnt surprise me if he was linked to Evansdale as well. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! They dont say where they collected it from, but thats an important question. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. In the case of the search of the Maxwell home, a gun was taken from the home in order to do ballistics tests on it. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. I am not sure. The suspect in a still from the video taken on Libby German's phone. You dont need a degree, credential, and a license to do this job, you know. Im not sure if pregnancy can be confirmed via autopsy before 6 weeks. KAK and his Dad. They act like Im sort of deranged psychopathic maniac whos a danger to women and children. The search warrant list a number of items that LE is looking for. Allen was taken into custody and booked into the Carroll County Jail in connection with the horrific crime. New details of Delphi Bridge Murders reveal victims died in bloodbath Kelsi has been investigated quite a bit, and she has been interviewed a few times by the FBI, including a couple of times at her school. Please email if you do not want to reply here. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! As if her murder itself wasn't mysterious enough, the case would see twists, turns, and dead ends along with mysteries within the mystery. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. And I happen to be trained as a Journalist. Delphi Murders - Bodys Posed - LifeUnited And when they said BG was actually better described as a combination of both sketches, they were correct too. People are saying that we have a copy of the gag order that was issued on the towing of the truck at the CPS building. Just thought I would steel you for that thought. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? The version of the suspect sketch in the image was not released until April 2019, so the photo would have been taken at least two years after the murders. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. Richard 'Ricky' Allen, Delphi Murders Suspect: 5 Fast Facts | Heavy.com You mentioned that the police are allowed to lie to the public. If any of you want to sift through there and find some interesting stuff and post it here, please feel free to go for it. Did he see BG? The case is still being actively investigated. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. Im not stupid. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Blood, Sex Staging, Fiber Evidence: Chilling New Details in Murder of Also how about this? The killings were later nicknamed the Snapchat Murders after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. No, he came up with the lost my keys gambit to explain why his car sat at the cemetery from 6:30 PM the day of the crime to 12:30 PM the next day when the girls bodies were found, a period of 18 full hours. Classy. But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City. If I were LE, I would take a long, hard look at Rick Brown in Delphi, Indiana. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . At least two prior marriages. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. "I didn't waaaaaant to, but I didn't want to be called a liiiiiiiiar". Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. This year, Allen "again admitted" to police "that he was on the trail but denied knowing Victim 1 or Victim 2 and denied any involvement in their murders," according to the probable cause affidavit. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? Not everyone was tied lipped, there were some rumors and messages on sm. There's a lot going on here for me to try to figure out. Which of them is LEs chief suspect? Mr. Lindsay, The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. The girls took photos while strolling across the bridge, but as time passed and their family didnt hear from them, police were called for assistance. Logistical occupations, Construction workers etc who travel have free reign. A Murder at Penn State; The case of Dana Bailey. The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. Tell her I said HAVE A NICE DAY! Indiana State Police's analysis of Allen's gun "determined the unspent round located within two feet" of one of the victims "had been cycled through Richard M. Allen's Sig Sauer Model P226," the probable cause affidavit said. Remember that they came out with a pair of boots? A 50-year-old suspect, identified as Richard Allen, has been arrested at the Carroll County Jail in connection with the murders of Abigail Williams and Libby German, whose bodies were found near the Delphi Historic Trail shortly after being reported missing in February . On the day the girls went missing, Libby had posted photos on Snapchat of her and Abby walking along the trail. One said hes a real nice guy and hes obviously a ladies man lol. Im confused. Shock value towards anyone who finds the bodies and perverted pleasure seem like they can be intertwined. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. The photo shows Brittany Zapanta, 28 - the daughter of Richard Allen, 50, on the Manon high bridge in the woods outside Delphi, Indiana. For instance, if LE have a suspect, and they have a partial present in 10% of the population, this is one more bit of evidence that might point towards them having the right guy. Im not sure about their clothes, but they definitely crossed that creek all right. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. I have no idea either way, but its just something that has bothered me because I dont see him being brought up nearly as much as some others who have had little to no connection to this case. Some of this confusion is probably natural, since the the whole B family has gone underground. How do I do this? He was one of the original witnesses who saw BG and gave a description. As far as the serial killer theory goes, I believe there's a good chance BG is already a serial killer or someone who will one day be a serial killer. After all, there was nothing they could have done anyway. Can you email me with her name, please? . Im curious if Mr X knew KAK or his father? Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! He is happy to do so. Is Mr X part of any of the local groups working on promoting the trail system? He stayed to guard his truck. You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. In the actual footage you can see flash bulbs popping off, presumably taking pics of the scene. Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. FBI agent believed bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders | wthr.com Because that is a deer kit around his waist. The main suspect is brazen, openly admits to being a pedophile, goes to the victims graves and leaves flowers, and visits the victims families to offer solace for their losses. See the sort of games these guys play? Killer Likely 'Moved and Staged' Delphi Murder Victims - Law & Crime For example, a rape victim being naked from the waist down and legs splayed might invoke shock but the victim was not posed specifically to shock- just left as is. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. It is interesting to note that the Evansdale girls were also abducted on the 13th. That is when they discovered the fake anthony_shots profile, soliciting minor girls online. Well have a conversation about it, hell say, you know, Its such a tragedy, and well say were sorry for the families and all of them. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. A .40-caliber unspent round was found less than 2 feet away from one of the girls' bodies, and that unspent round went through a gun that Allen owns, according to the probable cause affidavit. Please do not report this due to it discussing a rumor. I tend to agree. What? We believe that those reactions were overblown. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. The bodies had been staged and the killing would likely have caused the killer to get . Also if Kegans not involved, then neither is the father. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. . Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. It doesnt seem reasonable to stay out there all that time for no good reason. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams. The only crime on Mr. Xs record is an expunged conviction for statutory rape from 1984 in Indiana when he 18 and the girl was 14. Then he needed 2-3 months of therapy to work through this traumatic experience. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. Keep perusing to discover what the supposed Delphi Murders leaked text messages are about. Then there is always the question of his occupation. We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! Article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. Are you speculating? A massive search party was convened that night and the girls' bodies were found the next day, next to a creek. Unsolved Murders Archives - TRUECRIMEGUY.COM You are apparently a better sleuth than I am. Apparently claimed that he saw Mr. X in another town around the time of the murders. Tough shit. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! If the early rumor is true, and Abby was posed fully clothed as if asleep, it might indicate some remorse or "undoing" by the killer. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. -- New details have come to light in the unsolved Delphi, Indiana, double murder investigation with the publication of a police interview with a man who, according to transcripts . Of course she did. Much more on that below. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. I am sure he was asked. He detailed other information about the crime scene, and the differences in the girls' apparent injuries. 'I kill 8-year-old April Marie Tinsley. As CrimeOnline previously reported, 13-year-old Abby and 14-year-old Libby were murdered in 2017, but the killer remains elusive. This person was going to share the pictures regardless, they just wanted to be asked first to make themselves feel better is my guess. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. Staging- by definition means they were placed/posed pre or post mortem a certain way. Plenty of time to get numbers, etc. But that too could have been either misleading or true. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. Indiana State Police and the. A double asterisk means the information is proven by case documents in our possession. 2/13, 2:13, 2-13. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. According to the warrant, Logan said he was in Lafayette on the day of the murders, visiting an aquarium. Besides, hes the wrong age, 27-28. The affidavit states that Indiana State Police and the FBI carried out a search warrant on 25 February 2017 - less than two weeks after Abby and Libby were murdered at Mr Klines home in Peru after tracking down the user of the anthony_shots profile to the property. I dont know, FIELDS! Distractify is a registered trademark. Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. The bodies were found on property belonging to Ronald Logan. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. FBI says their bodies 'moved and staged' in Delphi murders - WBIW Oh theyre not made by him. But no arrests have ever been made with several promising leads or theories arising over the years, only to go cold. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. 3 Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors - mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10.